Another annoying thing about rebellions in EU game…
I like to play with random/historical events on. For me it adds a little bit of instability to the game. However ever notice tht bad events always happen at inconvenient times?? For example. I’m playing as P-L and for 20 years I’ve been planning an assault on Russia. Slowly building troops, building fortifications, taking my time. For those 20 years, everything is peaceful. My Moslem acquistions from previous wars are behaving themselves. Then after all preparations are complete I give the goahead…Invasion to commence July 1. 1580.
Within days I get a “Peasants are Unhappy, Revolt Risk higher in all nationalist provinces” event. Added to the natural revolts because of a two point stability penalty for declaring war with no CB, all of a sudden almost everybody is revolting and my invasion of Russia doesn’t quite go off like I planned it.
And this has happened before. Coincidence? I don’t think so.
Emperor of Europe 06-06 15:44
Look up ‘Murphy’ on the net! 
Heyesey 06-06 15:49
You spent twenty years planning a war and didn’t account for the possibility of province unrest? (Small though it may be) And Poland has the cheapest cavalry with which to build a charging-round-killing-off-rebels force, so you have no excuse at all 
Benson 06-06 16:00
First go slaughter the peasants with your cheap cavalry then go kick Russia’s butt!
I know the feeling Josephus, I think a lot of people at this forum agree that the revolts in this game occur too often. Just hang in there, maybe they’ll fix this in the sequel;)
Josephus I 06-06 17:26
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Originally posted by Heyesey
You spent twenty years planning a war and didn’t account for the possibility of province unrest?
Well I did have an army of about 20 strength cavalry ready to deal with one or two. But you had to see this, the rebellions were spreading like wild fire. Plus I had to race my invading army to Samara (the gold province I wanted), defend Novgorod (mine from a previous war) And oh yeah, Russia had Persian allies racing into my territory from the south. I’m only human, WAY too much to deal with at one time.
If I dealt with the rebellions first, it would have taken years as they were popping up all over the place. In one territory I defeat the rebellion, move out to crush another one and the rebels pop up in the same place again. By the time I would have crushed the entire rebellion, my war with Russia would have been going on too long and soon i would have to deal with “War Exhaustion” rebellions.
Steve Staten 06-06 18:57
I have had the “insta-rebellion” problem too just after declaring war (ESPECIALLY with my non-state-religion provinces). Once I started ‘promoting legal counsel’, the problem became much less noticeable. What become more noticeable, however, download free games, was the $162 Ducat per province expense. However, I really do believe that “promotion” pays for itself when you factor in the expenses of raising an extra army or two and besieging the rebellious colonies (in the winter, no less) and all the YEARS of lost revenue. There is also the stomach acid you spend when suddenly there is 15K rebel army standing between your 8K army and some poorly defended enemy province that you expected to quickly snatch up for leverage at the peace talks.
Jehangir 06-06 19:08
This is totally agravating I had a similar problem last night (25% revolt risk in Mecklenburg!!)
On the other hand, that is one of the joys of playing P-L, the constant watchfulness and the fact that no matter what you do, its going to be more work than, say, France. Just let them go and conquer Russia, then clean up the B*****d’s afterwards.
Allemand 06-06 20:45
Of course, the Russian provinces you take will also be rebelling as soon as you turn your back.:)
Josephus I 06-06 20:55
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[i]. Just let them go and conquer Russia, then clean up the B*****d’s afterwards. [/b]
Normally that’s my strategy. But when you have so many rebellions going off at once, and spreading like cancer, I think it’s sometimes best to hold off the war–or even settle–and deal with the rebels. Ultimatley, they begin to affect your supply routes when seiging and also, obviously, affects your income which you need a lot of if waging war.
Kev71 06-06 21:08
The thing that irritates me most about rebellions is when they spontaneously kick out your sizable army and have control of the highly fortified province, without any noticeable fight you can see. Then you have to amass an even larger army to even be able to go back in to besiege the province.
Playing as Austria recently, I had about 10 or so provinces rebel at the same time, while I’m at war with many different nations. It took me forever to retake them all, because I had previously fortified them all to the max.
Strangely, it was only provinces that I had diplo-annexed that rebelled. None of my original provinces rebelled once. This is strange because, as England, I had many of my original provinces rebel at times. From now on, I’m just going to strongly fortify my original provinces, to protect from invaders. The ones I’ve taken through diplomacy or war, I’ll let the enemy and rebels have at them at first. I’ll get them back anyway when I force the enemy to sign my peace treaty. Then, retaking the rebel provinces won’t be so much of a pain to take back, without all the fortifications.
Ironikinit 07-06 04:22
Something I like to do when faced with climbing war exhaustion or a big stability drop is to drop tolerance for a minority religion to zero. That way I have fewer provinces revolting. They revolt more often, but I can have an army in that area to take care of it, instead of running all around trying to put out fires an inevitably missing one or two. Also, if they keep it up long enough, they drop below 5000 population and a missionary/settler can be sent to convert them. In my last game as Austria, I had every single religion (except maybe the Sunni… but AFAIK Moslems only have the one slider) so I had to keep my stability high or else.
It’s actually a vicious tactic, but I remind myself that it’s only virtual ethnic cleansing.